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Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:04 am
by blueldr
It would make a great racer against a Dizzy Two! Our allies from the big war, the Navy, sprung for a few of those modified goons with the pumped up
Wright R-1820s and gear doors but they never did amount to much. The Convair 240s and the Martin 202s and 404s queered that plan for the commercials.
Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:45 am
by GAHorn
What is the panel white line for? Left/Right? (God/underling?) I love the control lock. (Looks like it could be used to jumper across a battery solenoic, heh, Dick?)
I noticed that red one seems to be pulling ahead of the other....
Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:50 pm
by blueldr
Arash,
The old coast RR was long before my time. I think it was on the other side of the coast highway from the airport since we used to drive across the old RRright of way with the dump trucks coming out of the El Granada quarry on the way to the airport job. As a matter of fact, the truck scales were set up on the old RR right of way.
Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:08 pm
by GAHorn
blueldr wrote:Arash,
The old coast RR was long before my time. I think it was on the other side of the coast highway from the airport since we used to drive across the old RRright of way with the dump trucks coming out of the El Granada quarry on the way to the airport job. As a matter of fact, the truck scales were set up on the old RR right of way.
Did you have to fight the Indians to deliver that dirt? (or were firearms yet invented...??)

Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:01 am
by hilltop170
I'm wondering why Yak designers even bothered to try to make those planes retractable. With all the extra mechanism and weight required and as far out as the gear still sticks out, it couldn't make much of a real improvement in speed. They would be much lighter and look better if they had just left them fixed gear (and a taildragger). But I guess as a trainer, it got the students used to selecting the gear up and down even if it didn't do any good performance-wise.
Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:44 am
by hilltop170
So that's where Republic engineers got the idea! The A-10 is configured in a similar manner, flap damage and rub strips on the tails is all that contact in a gear-up landing. The A-10 becomes a taildragger in that condition. If you zoom-in on the picture you can see light all the way across underneath it.
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Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:42 pm
by lowNslow
hilltop170 wrote:So that's where Republic engineers got the idea! The A-10 is configured in a similar manner, flap damage and rub strips on the tails is all that contact in a gear-up landing. The A-10 becomes a taildragger in that condition. If you zoom-in on the picture you can see light all the way across underneath it.
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They even chocked it so it wouldn't roll away.
Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:01 pm
by hilltop170
My nephew has been flying the A-10 since he got out of flight training in 1998 and has been stationed in Korea and Alaska and has made 4 trips to the desert in them. He was also the Air Force air show demo pilot for 2 years, I went to ten of his performances and they were awesome. A-10s might not be supersonic or land on carriers, but he says there is no better feeling in the world than pulling that trigger. He emphasizes "NO better".
Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:27 pm
by hilltop170
Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:29 pm
by GAHorn
Aryana wrote:..
When landed gear up, they were designed to have the wooden prop break apart (the M-14P had a gear reduction which supposedly buffers any damage to the crank), and it still lands on the exposed wheels saving the airframe. If the flaps are down, they will hit a little bit, but if they're up it pretty much rolls on the wheels. All you have to do is lift up the plane, extend the gear, put a new prop on and fly it away.....
...then,...it's off to SIBERIA!

Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:48 pm
by blueldr
When I went up to Alaska in '95, I was headed home from Fairbanks flying about 2500 AGL. I was just south of Eileson(sp) AFB with the Richardson highway on my left hand side. It was a pretty smoky day and the visability was about three to five miles. All of a sudden something flashed by in my periferal vision on my right. What in hell was that ??? I got kind of jumpy. In a couple of seconds, something flashes by on the left. It was a goddamn A-10, right at my altitude, headed north going like a striped assed ape. I want to tell you that jets going the opposite way, in that kind of flight conditions, at your altitude, will really tighten up the old pucker string. I would have to assume they were headed for Eieleson. I guess the speed limit at low altitude doesn't apply inder the circumstances. I got down to about 500 feet above the road and stayed there for about half an hour. The buggers were painted gray and were damned near invisable in the smoky conditions.
Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:43 pm
by GAHorn
No worries, bluEldr....they had you on their targetting-radar and FLIR! (How do you suppose they set you up for the show?)

Re: Fun day in 44C
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:19 pm
by hilltop170
Excellent! I'm still waiting for an opportunity to witness that myself.