The International Cessna^® 170 Association

Eric,

"Muff Covers"----They're used in cold weather.---But not by men.

blueldr wrote:Eric,

"Muff Covers"----They're used in cold weather.---But not by men.

Yeah and talk about something that the price has gotten inflated all out proportion!!!!

I have an old Air Facts magazine that has a black and white picture of a new 170A with overall paint job. The base color might be gray, the stripes appear to be edged in white. Id be willing to mail the magazine to George or Bruce or whoever in the interest of historical accuracy. I think I read an old thread in which Russ Ferris said he had a picture as well. [/quote]

Yep, that was me. I have a August 1950 Skyways magazine that has a fully painted 170A in flight on the cover, in glorious yellow with black trim.
It reminds me of a bumble bee! I'll scan it and try to post it on this thread.

I'm siding with Bruce on this one - there is some evidence out there that you could get your 170 factory painted. I have magazine photos from the mid 1950s of 180s with full paint, mostly seaplanes but at least one I think of is of a landplane. I'd have to hunt them down, though.

One thing I learned from the old car hobby is there are no absolutes when it comes to authenticity. For years, the Studebaker Drivers Club judges were adamant that Avantis only came with black hoods springs - until confronted with a 4,500 mile documented original car with yellow springs

That kind of proof will be just about impossible to come by to settle this one! I do find it hard to believe Cessna would charge 275 bucks for a few paint stripes on bare aluminum, in view of the other prices listed. And I would think there would be plenty of cheapskates that wouldn't have paid
that. The only completely un-painted airplanes I've seen from that era were Cessna prototypes. Russ Farris

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whoops, try again...

Perhaps your glory already fled.

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Well, this is the first time I ever tried uploading a picture to ANY forum,
my glory has returned...

That's not a photo. That's an artist's sketch/depiction.

It does look that way George doesn't it but it is hard to tell without seeing the original cover.

One thing we know, it's not PhotoShopped.

Lots of clues that it's a sketch...one of the most obvious is the shadow of the strut versus the other shadows.

George, George...are you positive? I think it's a photo. I'll admit the magazine cover is in poor condition, but the overall detail is much higher than a artist conception usually has. I have numerous copies of "Skyways" and all the others have photgraphs as cover material.

Also, notice the antenna trailing from the insulator on top of the fin. Probably a LF type. Interesting detail for an artist conception; I'll admit
just having it hang loose seems a little odd, kind of like an R/C model.
The early Bonanzas had a trailing antenna that was reeled in for T.O. and landing.

I'm sure the 170 Greek chorus will chime in on this one...Russ Farris

gahorn wrote:Lots of clues that it's a sketch...one of the most obvious is the shadow of the strut versus the other shadows.

The shadow of the strut looks reasonable to me. It goes from the fuselage attachment point to the right spot on the shadow of the wing.

But where's the door? Busted!!!!

I will admit it could be a photograph that has been "re-touched". Airbrushing to enhance the overall effect of a photo was quite common in this era, as in Playboy, Esquire ect. I've noticed this on many 1950s "Flying" magazine covers.

Still, I think this is a real photo...notice the reflection on the bottom of the wing between the right strut and fuselage....Discuss! Russ Farris