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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:43 pm
by GAHorn
Zreyn, one thing you might try is: Loading your airplane to the average wt you normally fly at, and with a couple of heavy-duty plastic garbage bags laid one upon the other.....two sets of them .... each set directly in front of your main wheels about 3 or 4 feet.... You and a buddy push on the left/right struts in a straight line and push your main wheel upon the garbage bags. Then look to see if the bags have remained largely stationary...or have they twisted/screwed themselves all in a wad and/or torn... indicating your main wheels need alignment.
At 2,000 lbs operating weight, your wheels should have zero camber and zero toe-in/toe-out. Toe-in/out errors can really make the airplane handle "squirrelly".
Wheel alignment is adjusted with "shims" placed between the axles and the main gearlegs.
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:37 am
by flyguy
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:58 am
by flyguy
blueldr wrote:Squaretail,
If you have no desire to be a member of this organization, why do you complain if the members think you're some kind if a cheap assed freeloader on the forum?
GOLDURN IT ELDER DIJA FERGIT TU TAKE YER PIL THIS MORN. ITSA THEM LIL PILLS WHAT MAKECHA
"GO" A LIL EASIER YA NO. . . . .

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AN GAY HORN EWE NEEDS TU GIF YER HI HOARSE A REST. WE NO U GOTS MILLUNS OF HOURS UV SMARTS BUTWE DOAN'T NEEDS IT ALL IN ONE BIG OLE DOSE . . . . .

Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:40 am
by GAHorn
Gar, I have a special message for you:

Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:23 am
by Brad Brady
gahorn wrote:Gar, I have a special message for you:

George, Where did yu find that?.......I love it
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:50 am
by blueldr
In reference to the above, are you talking about the avitar or the activity?
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:37 am
by Brad Brady
blueldr wrote:In reference to the above, are you talking about the avitar or the activity?
Ovecourse it is the avitar.......but.....not butt....anyone that has an unusual problem with me (not that I don't cause problems)...can Kiss my..................

Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:23 am
by voorheesh
Has anyone figured out why there is no one around when you make a really good landing? And when you "fly it into the ground" or bounce it really good, your wife or mother in law is on board and all your friends are next to the runway watching.
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:59 pm
by flyguy
gahorn wrote:Gar, I have a special message for you:

GAY HORN IS THE "SHORT" ONE DOIN THE KISSIN - - -

Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:16 pm
by SteveF
Blue leaders comment is absolutely priceless - a real three pointer (pun intended)!!!
It is a gray and wet day in the northeast but this thread has brightened my day and has me wishing I had George's avatar of the guy rolling on the floor laughing.

Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:35 am
by Brad Brady
Brad Brady wrote:blueldr wrote:In reference to the above, are you talking about the avitar or the activity?
Ovecourse it is the avitar.......but.....not butt....anyone that has an unusual problem with me (not that I don't cause problems)...can Kiss my..................

Who put the end on my post?....... THANKS!...... I wish I knew how to do that.
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:53 am
by Brad Brady
voorheesh wrote:Has anyone figured out why there is no one around when you make a really good landing? And when you "fly it into the ground" or bounce it really good, your wife or mother in law is on board and all your friends are next to the runway watching.
Dosn't that have something to do with one of my close Irish relitives.......Murphy?...

Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:18 am
by GAHorn
Brad Brady wrote:Brad Brady wrote:blueldr wrote:In reference to the above, are you talking about the avitar or the activity?
Ovecourse it is the avitar.......but.....not butt....anyone that has an unusual problem with me (not that I don't cause problems)...can Kiss my..................

Who put the end on my post?....... THANKS!...... I wish I knew how to do that.
Compliments of the moderator.

Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:35 pm
by n3833v
George,
You are just out of this world

with your "SPECIAL" knowledge.
John
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:58 am
by cessna170bdriver
voorheesh wrote:Has anyone figured out why there is no one around when you make a really good landing? And when you "fly it into the ground" or bounce it really good, your wife or mother in law is on board and all your friends are next to the runway watching.
First law of applied aerodynamics: "The quality of any landing is inversely proportional to the sum of the number of people watching and riding along."
In algebraic form:
Q=1/(Pw+Pra)
Only when the pilot is the only witness (Pw + Pra=1) can the quality of the landing be 100%.
Miles