The International Cessna^® 170 Association

A good fellow/friend of mine who has since passed on used to have an interesting number. I wanted to add him to my insurance on my Baron so I called him to get his number for my agent. He started to recite it, when I yelled "whooaaaa"..."let me get a pencil to write it down.

"Awww, you don't need a pencil!", he responded. "It's ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, EIGHT!" (Only one digit from being a sequence. I always wondered if Bill Seidel had submitted his certificate request ten seconds sooner if he'd have gotten the perfect number... or if FAA simply refused to issue such a questionable certificate number as 1234567.)

Mine is 1551176.

Harold

Mine is 1511321. Pretty easy to remember.
I got my plastic certificate back in '05 at Airventure. The English proficency thing isnt on it. I called the FAA on thursday and the lady told me I needed to get it on my certificate since I do wander in to Canada from time to time. I told her I was fluent in Canadian, ah? but she still charged me 2 dollars.

Larry

Harold Holiman wrote:George,

Isn't the "ENGLISH PROFICIENT" only necessary for international flights. As long as you have a plastic card without it, arn't you still ok as long as you stay in the US, or do you have to get a new one anyway?

Harold

Correct. This is an ICAO requirement for flight outside the US, not an FAA requirement. But as George pointed out, you'll get this now if you request a new certificate for any reason -- such as converting paper to plastic, or because your pilot certificate number is the same as your Social Security number and you want a replacement number.

jrenwick wrote:

Harold Holiman wrote:George,

Isn't the "ENGLISH PROFICIENT" only necessary for international flights. As long as you have a plastic card without it, arn't you still ok as long as you stay in the US, or do you have to get a new one anyway?

Harold

Correct. This is an ICAO requirement for flight outside the US, not an FAA requirement. But as George pointed out, you'll get this now if you request a new certificate for any reason -- such as converting paper to plastic, or because your pilot certificate number is the same as your Social Security number and you want a replacement number.

So this would mean if you want to fly to Alaska and make any stops in Canada then you will need the new one with "English Proficient" on the back of the license. It's only $2.00 anyway and you can do it online.

Rick

hungstart wrote:

jrenwick wrote:

Harold Holiman wrote:... or because your pilot certificate number is the same as your Social Security number and you want a replacement number.

So this would mean if you want to fly to Alaska and make any stops in Canada then you will need the new one with "English Proficient" on the back of the license. It's only $2.00 anyway and you can do it online.

Rick

If you request your SSN be changed to a random number, I don't believe you have to pay the $2.00 replacement fee. However, if you're not changing, then the $2.00 replacement fee applies.

That's correct.

Rick