Howard Steed, a Delta pilot that I met in the early '70s, and whose younger brother I flew with at a commuter in the mid '70s, was rated and flew for Delta in DC9, B727, and L1011 aircraft, yet he had only type ratings without multi engine rating.
I hold ATP, Multi-engine land, with type ratings in HS125, BAe125, CE500, B737, and CFIA-I and Training Center Examiner, yet have never had an instrument rating. Weird combinations are possible, but usually because they are "grandfathered" under the old Part 61.
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- trake
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My father, who retired as DC-10 capt. for UAL told me he never took a MEL checkride. He passed his ATP in a Capital Airlines DC-3. He said the examiner added it to his certificate after one of his airline type checkrides. I remember him giving ME instruction 

Tracy Ake
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1955 cessna 170b
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- blueldr
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In the days of old,
When pilots were bold,
Before the FAA was invented.-----
An ATP was called an ATR and was described as a Commercial with an instrument rating. The license included a horsepower rating of fifty per cent under and fifty per cent over your logged experience.
After taking the written for her ATP, my daughter took her flight check in a Cessna 150 to preclude expiration of the written when the one year limit was approaching. I was kind of disappointed that it didn't include a type rating in the C-150.
When pilots were bold,
Before the FAA was invented.-----
An ATP was called an ATR and was described as a Commercial with an instrument rating. The license included a horsepower rating of fifty per cent under and fifty per cent over your logged experience.
After taking the written for her ATP, my daughter took her flight check in a Cessna 150 to preclude expiration of the written when the one year limit was approaching. I was kind of disappointed that it didn't include a type rating in the C-150.
BL
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