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Speaking of tailwheel training and groundloops...
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:49 am
by GAHorn
Speaking of tailwheel training.... I wonder how many "errors" can be found in this short video (which is a sales-pitch for a guy selling his training course.) I may not know everything...but there's a few things about this video I noticed, and I wonder who else might see them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcafcV60Uck
Then...after watching the above.... look at this one...and disregard the amatuerish commentary, but enjoy (shiver) at the episodic mishandling of the airpalnes. (Except that DC3 is neat, heh?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... 5trygRQaV0
Re: Speaking of tailwheel training and groundloops...
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:18 am
by voorheesh
Takeoff showed elevator neutral as it accelerated. Then he appeared to force the tail up which was followed by a swerve to left. I teach holding stick aft early in takeoff to keep tail wheel effective. Then release back pressure when tail is ready to come off ground. Add right rudder (smoothly) as tail comes up to avoid swerve. I soloed from rear seat in Cubs, but I don't know everything. Maybe the point of this video was to show sloppy technique to help sell his training.
Re: Speaking of tailwheel training and groundloops...
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:30 pm
by Poncho73
Whole bunch of stuff, takeoff: - I always used to close the door on my PA11 just for airmanship, use appropriate wing down tech, control the yaw, pitch awareness would help........here's more. Landing should be wing down tech, too fast, put some aileron in once down. Pretty frustrating to watch this stuff but there are all sorts of "tailwheel experts" selling a product

. If I had the strength to watch any longer I'm sure there are more.
Re: Speaking of tailwheel training and groundloops...
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:47 pm
by GAHorn
Well...a couple days have passed since I first posted the videos. I'm surprised no one has noted the Bevier video offering tailwheel training, using a cub with the door opened on the LEFT side of the fuselage. Not a cub guy, but I was surprised at that.
Here it is again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcafcV60Uck
Re: Speaking of tailwheel training and groundloops...
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:47 pm
by Bruce Fenstermacher
gahorn wrote:Well...a couple days have passed since I first posted the videos. I'm surprised no one has noted the Bevier video offering tailwheel training, using a cub with the door opened on the LEFT side of the fuselage. Not a cub guy, but I was surprised at that.
Here it is again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcafcV60Uck
Your NOT a Cub guy George and it shows. This is NOT a Cub at least not a Piper J3 Cub. It is a Legend Cub and those have lots of things like left and right doors and wider fuselage that REAL J3's never had. I noticed it was Legend Cub right away.
Re: Speaking of tailwheel training and groundloops...
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:24 am
by DaveF
This being an instructional video, it's possible that the clips are illustrations of what not to do. Don't balloon on landing, don't swerve on takeoff.
Re: Speaking of tailwheel training and groundloops...
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:38 pm
by Poncho73
I did note the door on the left side. My PA 11 door, as with all Cubs was on the right. I just figured why go there will all the glaring issues.....
