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Am I wrong?

Read this article by Forbes Magazine - Suddenly wondered if I should raise my head and HOWL

FORBES " Furthermore the 787 is made of carbon fiber material, rather than aluminum. This means that it is should be lighter and able to fly at lower altitudes since carbon fiber will not rust, as aluminum does, if it flies in the more humid parts of the atmosphere."


GA flies aluminum, GA flies lower altitudes - Did reporter ( Peter Cohan) just call my airplane a rust bucket?

....Does the 787 have teething problems?...Yes, just like any other plane and there will be new issues in other systems. Generally it takes about a year in service before the OTP settles down. As for the battery issue, is it the construction or a charger issue? I expect and hope Boeing will have a fix soon.

I thought I noticed a bit of a brown hue on my aluminum last I saw airplane.

Grossly ignorant media just makes up "facts" with no effort to mesh with reality, especially in aviation. Pitiful but very common these days.

After reading about those Lithium Ion batteries bursting into flames, you guys should take a look at the batteries in your cell phones and such. I'm damned if I want those things in my front pants pocket any more. That's just too close to take a chance, even though at my age I'm not too active in that game.

blueldr wrote:After reading about those Lithium Ion batteries bursting into flames, you guys should take a look at the batteries in your cell phones and such. I'm damned if I want those things in my front pants pocket any more. That's just too close to take a chance, even though at my age I'm not too active in that game.

You're amazing bluEldr!
I want a photo of you so I can have it made into a patch to wear on the back of my motorcycle jacket!

In the most-recent "recurrency" class I just took at work, the fire-fighting instructor informed us that fully-prepared crews keep welding gloves in the kit, for the purpose of handling any lithium-battery-powered device that catches fire (to toss it overboard.) They are said to melt-down through the floorboards.

Makes me reconsider leaving my laptop plugged-in and running while I'm out of the house... the entire place could burn to the ground!

Those Lithium ion batteries probably melt thru plastic airplanes faster than thru rusted aluminum ones too!!!

If I'm gonna keep this cell phone in my front pants pocket, I'm gonna have get a jewel box made of something tougher than Hanes or Jockey cotton.

Maybe Boeing should talk to Elon Musk who did Space X and Tesla. He seems to have the batteries figured out...except for the dweebs that don't plug in their chargers. How about not adding or changing oil or letting your car run out of gas. Like it has been said..."Life is tough, it's tougher if you're stupid"

...the first world problems we have to face

LiPolys CAN burst into flames (explosion...not realy) if they are really really over charged but they give off a lot of warnings before hand.

This is why most RC flyers charge their Lipolys in a metal coffee can...just in case they go up.

Once they hit something like 105 centegrade, the lithium generates it's own heat and the reaction can't be stopped. Never pick up or approach a smoking battery.

The first Lipoly laptop batteries COULD over charge due to faulty or non existent thermometers on the batteries and could give you a real nasty burn if you left it on your lap, ignored the massive building heat and smoke before they ignited. Once ignited, they burn up rather quickly (seconds)...just not enough lithium. I'd fear the splattering melted plastic more. The media has made these isolated incidents look like Thermo Nuclear devices tho.

The problem is unheard of in modern electronics.

Has Boeing come out and stated that this was a Lipoly over charge / over heating issue yet or is the media making assumptions again?