Page 1 of 1

Fixed gear has certain advantages.

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:01 pm
by GAHorn

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:39 am
by flat country pilot
That looks real expensive :cry: How does the military deal with the pilot?

Bill

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:48 am
by thammer
flat country pilot wrote:That looks real expensive :cry: How does the military deal with the pilot?

Bill
Have you heard where "decimation" originated? When the Roman troops screwed up in battle the general lined them up and every 10th ("deci") was killed by the guys next to him. Similar thing here but since there only two pilots, maybe the flight engineer gets to whack them both. :wink: Though he should have been screaming like a girl when they forgot the gear. Hmm... maybe he was and they ignored the gear warning thinking it was him.

More seriously, I have no idea, but it makes a good story. Saw it on a history channel show once.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:52 am
by doug8082a
Well that certainly looks like a CEM (Career Ending Maneuver)... :roll:

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:46 am
by GAHorn
flat country pilot wrote:That looks real expensive :cry: ....

Bill
Yep. Guess who gets to pay for that. :roll:

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:07 am
by tshort
I guess I better work a couple extra shifts this month ... 8O 8O

T.

"Career Check Complete"

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:20 pm
by 4-Shipp
Somehting I learned from a fellow T-37 IP:

"Gear down, cleared to land...career check complete" 8O

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:29 pm
by Bill Hart
I am not so sure that it was a gear handle malfunction. In the photos it appears that they blew the gear down with the nitrogen bottle not a normal gear extension.

As to the pilots there are 2 boards that would meet one is the safety board and the other a flight evaluation board. The safety board will try and figure out what happened the FEB will recommend action against the pilots.

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:34 pm
by CraigH
According to this report, the cause of the accident was determined to be "pilot error:

http://aero-news.net/news/military.cfm? ... litary.cfm

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:37 pm
by N2255D
Don't think B1 has an Engineer.

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:49 pm
by Pavewlc
It what happens when you keep sending folks on 12+ hour missions into combat zones day after day.
I don't know anything about this mishap other than it occured after a "very long mission at a forward location", but maybe "doing more with less" has not been such a good idea since it has resulted in "doing more with less people". My 2 cents...

Lee

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:29 pm
by Bill Hart
Pavewlc wrote:It what happens when you keep sending folks on 12+ hour missions into combat zones day after day.
I don't know anything about this mishap other than it occured after a "very long mission at a forward location", but maybe "doing more with less" has not been such a good idea since it has resulted in "doing more with less people". My 2 cents...

Lee

AMEN!