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New and Old

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:26 am
by GAHorn
I picked up a new C-172 brochure and found it interesting to compare the specifications of the new 172 to those of our 55-60 year old C-170-B's.


The 170B has 123 lbs more usefuel load than a new 172.
The 170B uses 327' less runway for takeoff, and 60' less distance to clear 50' obstacle, than a new 172.
It requires 150' less runway to land over a 50' obstacle.
It stalls 2 mph slower.
It has 2,000' higher service ceiling.

On the other hand the new 172 has 60 miles more range (because it carries 15 gals more fuel).
The new 172 cruises 15 mph faster (but uses 80% power vs 65% to do it, burning approx 2 gph more fuel. At the same power settings both airplanes have nearly identical speed and hourly fuel burn.)
The 172 is definitely quieter inside.
The 172 costs 6-times as much as a 170 (almost $200K more than a 170.)

The 170B costs half as much to insure, primarily the result of hull-value calculations.

Oh, yeah.... The 170 is prettier. :P

Re: New and Old

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:48 pm
by lowNslow
gahorn wrote: Oh, yeah.... The 170 is prettier. :P
That says it all. :wink:

Re: New and Old

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:24 pm
by N2255D
gahorn wrote: Oh, yeah.... The 170 is prettier. :P
One thing we can all agree on? :mrgreen:

Re: New and Old

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:49 pm
by hilltop170
lowNslow wrote:
gahorn wrote: Oh, yeah.... The 170 is prettier. :P
That says it all. :wink:
Not Quite!

The 170 has a TAILWHEEL!!!

Re: New and Old

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:55 am
by Blue4
Having been fortunate enough to fly some of the "new" Cessna airplanes, I'm amazed at how poorly many of the fixtures are wearing. An airplane with just a couple hundred hours can look pretty rough on the interior! I have to wonder what these youngsters will look like at 50+. My bet is that they won't age well ... very much UNLIKE our 170s!

Re: New and Old

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:33 pm
by flyguy
At 55 years old, our front seat covers, door and side panel fabric and headliner finally gave in to the rigors of age, wear and the elements. The rear seat leather and fabric would have stayed in place if we could have matched the exact "look" but that was impossible. I didn't take photos of "before" but here is a photo of "after" of the interior panels and seat covers...