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'52 IPC

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I've thought about this for sometime but recent offline conversation lit a little fire under the thought once again.

I'm wondering if anyone would have a IPC printed for 1952. Not one that covers the '52 but one that was printed for just that year.

You see lots of things changed in '53 and as the B model IPC which covers '52 through '56 doesn't always depict that loan year '52 installation. An engine installation drawing as well as maybe some instrument panel options come to mind.

But the parts manual printed after '51 and before '53 would have to have the '52 illustrations. Anyone have one?
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Re: '52 IPC

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I have a 52 owners manual, but never thought about the parts catalog. Sounds like some ebay time.
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The problem is Mike finding one from just '52. Not sure you could get an answer that specific correctly answered from most folks selling. So that means looking oneself which you can't do with most online purchases.

Before I start a serious hunt I'm curious if there is even such an animal and then if in fact it has those things I think it might.
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I think if thay made one which I imagine they did it would show a 1952 print date on the first few pages. Wouldnt be hard to narrow down from the latest versions which are I think a 1956 printing with updates. These seem very common. I would have to look but I believe my Cessna one is a 54 version.
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Bruce, wouldn't the 170A IPC provide the info (not yet superceded) on the engine installation for '52 year models? (and Fig 37 in the B-IPC shows the '52 instrument panels.)
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George there are certain things the A model had that a '52 doesn't. Pancake mufflers for example.

It's just me thinking about documentation and getting down to the nitty gritty. I own an A model IPC dated April 1950 so unless it's been updated (it hasn't) I'm missing a year. I also have a B model IPC dated September 1956. This one doesn't show the '52 engine install. So to be absolutely complete I should find an A model IPC from late 51 and a B model IPC from '52. I need a paper copy of the '48 IPC as well to make my paper IPC library ridiculously complete. Well ridiculous might be a paper copy printed each year.

I also bought the McCurtian PDFs which are the same dates at my paper copies but with updates of all the models.
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Re: '52 IPC

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Bruce, the Sep '56 IPC you have should have a Revision list which would indicate any changes made to the B-model IPC since first issue. Although your copy may be a Sep 56 issue.... it very likely has revisions dated much later. For example the cover page itself (in my own Sep 56 issue) is dated 2/5/68, and the revision pages contain remarks about revisions made as late as 1965. None of those revisions refer to engine, muffler, or baffle revisions that are not already addressed in the original IPC.
In other words, I don't see any Revisions which would change anything from a 1952 issue that affect the areas of your concern.
The muffs are addressed on pages 70/71 which indicate Hanlon Wilsons on all B-models by serial number subsequent to 20267. This leaves me to believe this is another example of an unapproved document which Cessna was just a bit "sloppy" producing.
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Re: '52 IPC

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George, you and I have the exact same '56 IPC and my cover page is also dated 2/5/68. I hadn't noticed that before. I did notice Cessna choose a variation of fast GREEN for the cover color though. :lol:

Not sure where you got page number 70/71. In my IPC the '52 exhaust and mufflers are addressed on page 88, figure 51 and the baffles on page 90, figure 52.

What is missing though that I think would be in a '52 print year IPC is a engine installation like what is found on page 84, figure 49 and page 86, Figure 50. The illustrations on these pages are of a '53 and later B model though some/most of the parts are the same. I'd think at some point in '52 there had to be a IPC with a illustration of the '52 installation.
  • B model IPC page 84, fig 49.jpg
    B model IPC page 86, fig 50.jpg
    I'm looking for a '52 IPC which has illustrations of the '52 install like the pages above which have the '53 and later installation. Yes it is funny what peaks your interest but I'd like to find these pages and the pages listing the parts which there had to be. Probably not many out there so it won't be easy (if even possible) to find as most IPCs were printed after '52 which makes perfect sense.
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