That blue beauty looks just like my old '35 except for the rack on the back fender and the solo seat. Funny, I can't seem to remember what color mine was.
I think it was black. Damn, that was a long time ago.
Oil expiration date
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- daedaluscan
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Re: Oil expiration date
Sweet.
If I truly believe we used to build better things in the past does that officially make me an old duffer?
If I truly believe we used to build better things in the past does that officially make me an old duffer?
Charlie
1956 170B C-GDRG #27019
1956 170B C-GDRG #27019
- GAHorn
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the Flat head engine:
(The above i-net pics are not actually of my ride, but are exactly the same color/condition. (Mine does have the Corbin speedo, and still looks just this good. 5600 original miles.)
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'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
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50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.

- blueldr
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George,
Where did you ever find a '34 bike with only that little mileage on it? I would have expected either more mileage or a big lump of rust and rotted tires if it was a barn find.
Where did you ever find a '34 bike with only that little mileage on it? I would have expected either more mileage or a big lump of rust and rotted tires if it was a barn find.
BL
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My "mentor" for my first "jet" experience in Hawkers (and QB sponsor) was Captain Beryl Minard. We became close friends for over 35 years. I merely did what friends do for friends and after his health declined he insisted on passing it along to me. I didn't realize that when I refused to accept the gift that he'd already signed the title over to me years earlier.
He received the bike from his parents as his 19th birthday gift, his father having purchased it from HD since it was becoming last-years demonstrator in '35. I have no idea how much mileage was on it at that time, and I have no idea if the speedo was ever changed out/repaired/etc.. , .... but that's what it reads now and the bike is in too good shape for me to believe it's been rolled over.
One of Beryl's stories about the bike was that his dog used to ride on the gas tank, and one day the dog's right rear leg slowly slipped down and must have touched the rear cylinder's spark plug top. That dog YELPED/LEPT off the bike at about 35 mph.... but ran alongside and managed to jump back up onto the gas tank without assistance, and they kept on riding!
Beryl told me that after the war his parents (while in their 60's) rode it from Ohio to Houston to deliver it to him when he was reassigned to Ellington Field by your former employer. That had to be quite a trip for two people that age on a hard-tail bike.
Beryl flew B-26s in Europe during WW2 and C45s in Korea, then a corporate career with oil companies in Houston. The Lockheed Loadstar he operated for many years is now in the Hobby Terminal Museum. (this is the same airplane I told about in another story in which I learned why all you old guys are deaf!)
He received the bike from his parents as his 19th birthday gift, his father having purchased it from HD since it was becoming last-years demonstrator in '35. I have no idea how much mileage was on it at that time, and I have no idea if the speedo was ever changed out/repaired/etc.. , .... but that's what it reads now and the bike is in too good shape for me to believe it's been rolled over.
One of Beryl's stories about the bike was that his dog used to ride on the gas tank, and one day the dog's right rear leg slowly slipped down and must have touched the rear cylinder's spark plug top. That dog YELPED/LEPT off the bike at about 35 mph.... but ran alongside and managed to jump back up onto the gas tank without assistance, and they kept on riding!
Beryl told me that after the war his parents (while in their 60's) rode it from Ohio to Houston to deliver it to him when he was reassigned to Ellington Field by your former employer. That had to be quite a trip for two people that age on a hard-tail bike.
Beryl flew B-26s in Europe during WW2 and C45s in Korea, then a corporate career with oil companies in Houston. The Lockheed Loadstar he operated for many years is now in the Hobby Terminal Museum. (this is the same airplane I told about in another story in which I learned why all you old guys are deaf!)
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.

- blueldr
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Re: Oil expiration date
The mention of the Lockheed Lodestar brings back many favorable memories. I always considered it to be one of the best looking airplanes ever desigined.
Unfortunately, many of them were "re-designed" post WWII by lengthening the nose and trimming off the outboard part of the horizontal stabilizer. Amazing that those guys thought that they were better desiginers than the original guys.
Perhaps my having been a pre WWII Lockheed employee has some bearing of my personal delights. I still think the P-38 was one of the prettiest airplanes ever built as were the "Constellation" series.
Unfortunately, many of them were "re-designed" post WWII by lengthening the nose and trimming off the outboard part of the horizontal stabilizer. Amazing that those guys thought that they were better desiginers than the original guys.
Perhaps my having been a pre WWII Lockheed employee has some bearing of my personal delights. I still think the P-38 was one of the prettiest airplanes ever built as were the "Constellation" series.
BL
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