License to Learn

A place to relax and discuss flying topics.

Moderators: GAHorn, Karl Towle, Bruce Fenstermacher

Post Reply
AR Dave
Posts: 1070
Joined: Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:06 pm

License to Learn

Post by AR Dave »

I remember when the FAA Examiner signed me off. He told me that this is a license to go learn. I understood what he was saying and so I attacked the ski's around the Matanuska Valley. Did hundreds of touch n goes. Paced the distance, over and over, of my take off and landings. Thought I'd learned to fly well by the way I made STOL landings, and etc, etc, etc... over the years.

If you're an expert, don't read any further - this is for us Special Pilots. 8O
Well now I'm the first to admit I'm a Knucklehead, but I've recently come to the conclusion that I'll have to re-learn over and over. I've been a bit aggrivated for some time that I just couldn't land like I once routinely did. Seems like the plane just want's to drop out of the air, if I tried to land as slow as I used too. Well FINALLY, I learned to fly again yesterday. Don't know how I drifted away from the BASICS, but here's what I rediscovered. :idea:

Rate of Descent = Control by Throttle (RPM).
Airspeed = Control with Yoke and Flaps.

I set up at 1500 RPM through the whole landing pattern. Turned final at 2 notches on flaps and 60 mph (prob slower than norm 170). Made myself leave the Yoke alone and use the throttle to control descent (1500 rpm baseline) 450-500 fpm. Pulled 3rd or 4th flap notch to slow down to 50 mph, just before landing (full stall or wheel). Real shortly I'm flying to Cabool to show Carol Coats I can safely land a 170. :oops:

Alright - I'm open for thoughts, suggestions, and good discussion.
User avatar
Bruce Fenstermacher
Posts: 10420
Joined: Tue Apr 23, 2002 11:24 am

Re: License to Learn

Post by Bruce Fenstermacher »

I don't have much to say Dave. As an expert, I didn't read past your first paragraph as you directed. :)
CAUTION - My forum posts may be worth what you paid for them!

Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
Email: brucefenster at gmail.com
futr_alaskaflyer
Posts: 369
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:27 am

Re: License to Learn

Post by futr_alaskaflyer »

Ah. The aviation version of "the shanks."

I suspect you are going to get the navy and air force chaps on this site awfully mad at each other presently though I hear varying stories about how branch pilots are actually taught.

But as you say is how I was taught, and how I generally land the best whether in a 170 or something faster and heavier (not that I get much of that anymore.) In squirrely winds I am using both.
Richard
N3477C
'55 B model (Franklin 6A-165-B3 powered, any others out there?)
futr_alaskaflyer
Posts: 369
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:27 am

Re: License to Learn

Post by futr_alaskaflyer »

http://williams.best.vwh.net/smxgigpdf/smxall.pdf

I don't know what any of that means but I thought it looked great :lol:
Richard
N3477C
'55 B model (Franklin 6A-165-B3 powered, any others out there?)
User avatar
GAHorn
Posts: 21294
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2002 8:45 pm

Re: License to Learn

Post by GAHorn »

Whatever happened to the cat-and-duck method?
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons. ;)
AR Dave
Posts: 1070
Joined: Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:06 pm

Re: License to Learn

Post by AR Dave »

George you read past the first paragraph - didn't you?
Post Reply
Cessna® is a registered trademark of Textron Aviation, Inc. The International Cessna® 170 Association is an independent owners/operators association dedicated to C170 aircraft and early O-300-powered C172s. We are not affiliated with Cessna® or Textron Aviation, Inc. in any way.