New and Old

A place to relax and discuss flying topics.

Moderators: GAHorn, Karl Towle, Bruce Fenstermacher

Post Reply
User avatar
GAHorn
Posts: 21295
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2002 8:45 pm

New and Old

Post by GAHorn »

I picked up a new C-172 brochure and found it interesting to compare the specifications of the new 172 to those of our 55-60 year old C-170-B's.


The 170B has 123 lbs more usefuel load than a new 172.
The 170B uses 327' less runway for takeoff, and 60' less distance to clear 50' obstacle, than a new 172.
It requires 150' less runway to land over a 50' obstacle.
It stalls 2 mph slower.
It has 2,000' higher service ceiling.

On the other hand the new 172 has 60 miles more range (because it carries 15 gals more fuel).
The new 172 cruises 15 mph faster (but uses 80% power vs 65% to do it, burning approx 2 gph more fuel. At the same power settings both airplanes have nearly identical speed and hourly fuel burn.)
The 172 is definitely quieter inside.
The 172 costs 6-times as much as a 170 (almost $200K more than a 170.)

The 170B costs half as much to insure, primarily the result of hull-value calculations.

Oh, yeah.... The 170 is prettier. :P
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons. ;)
User avatar
lowNslow
Posts: 1535
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2002 4:20 pm

Re: New and Old

Post by lowNslow »

gahorn wrote: Oh, yeah.... The 170 is prettier. :P
That says it all. :wink:
Karl
'53 170B N3158B SN:25400
ASW-20BL
User avatar
N2255D
Posts: 489
Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2002 3:42 am

Re: New and Old

Post by N2255D »

gahorn wrote: Oh, yeah.... The 170 is prettier. :P
One thing we can all agree on? :mrgreen:
Walt Weaver
Spencer Airport (NC35)
hilltop170
Posts: 3485
Joined: Sat May 06, 2006 6:05 pm

Re: New and Old

Post by hilltop170 »

lowNslow wrote:
gahorn wrote: Oh, yeah.... The 170 is prettier. :P
That says it all. :wink:
Not Quite!

The 170 has a TAILWHEEL!!!
Richard Pulley
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
User avatar
Blue4
Posts: 225
Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:58 am

Re: New and Old

Post by Blue4 »

Having been fortunate enough to fly some of the "new" Cessna airplanes, I'm amazed at how poorly many of the fixtures are wearing. An airplane with just a couple hundred hours can look pretty rough on the interior! I have to wonder what these youngsters will look like at 50+. My bet is that they won't age well ... very much UNLIKE our 170s!
User avatar
flyguy
Posts: 1059
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2002 6:44 pm

Re: New and Old

Post by flyguy »

At 55 years old, our front seat covers, door and side panel fabric and headliner finally gave in to the rigors of age, wear and the elements. The rear seat leather and fabric would have stayed in place if we could have matched the exact "look" but that was impossible. I didn't take photos of "before" but here is a photo of "after" of the interior panels and seat covers...
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
OLE GAR SEZ - 4 Boats, 4 Planes, 4 houses. I've got to quit collecting!
Post Reply
Cessna® is a registered trademark of Textron Aviation, Inc. The International Cessna® 170 Association is an independent owners/operators association dedicated to C170 aircraft and early O-300-powered C172s. We are not affiliated with Cessna® or Textron Aviation, Inc. in any way.