Paper Certificates

[Brad Brady]

I just was on the AG- AIR UPDATE Forum, and someone mentioned that Paper certificates will no longer be accepted by the FAA in the next year. Interesting! I have no problem...because my certs are done each other year when I renew my flight instructors cert. And Just because, several years ago they sent my commercial license plastic without me asking (that is cool for the FAA) something I thought I should pass......Brad

[GAHorn]

Yes, after March, 2010 any paper airman or repairman certificates are invalid. Also... BE CERTAIN to have your pilot's certificate endorsed "ENGLISH PROFICIENT" in order to meet new ICAO regs. Making that request will automatically provide you with the new plastic certificates.
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificate ... oficiency/

A simple request for replacements only may be made at your regional FSDO or at :
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificate ... _services/

[Bill Hart]

This is also true for A&P's but the date is Mar 31 2013. A lot of A&P's are upset by this as the date of issue changes with the new plastic card. I work with guy"s who have had their certificates for more than 40 years and now it looks like they just got them.

[GAHorn]

Yes, Thank you, Bill! I mis-typed. Certificates other than pilot certificates have longer to comply.

(Why do they get so upset? Does anyone think that my new King Air 300 type rating means I only learned to fly or obtained my ATP in 2009?)

[johneeb]

........... (Why do they get so upset? Does anyone think that my new King Air 300 type rating means I only learned to fly or obtained my ATP in 2009?)

besides that if really interested in who has the longest "hoha" we can play the who has the lowest license number (in this group probably Bluelder).

[GAHorn]

........... (Why do they get so upset? Does anyone think that my new King Air 300 type rating means I only learned to fly or obtained my ATP in 2009?)

besides that if really interested in who has the longest "hoha" we can play the who has the lowest license number (in this group probably Bluelder).

bluEldr.... probably, in a cover-up attempt,..... bootlegged his with a higher number than necessary.

[Harold Holiman]

George,

Isn't the "ENGLISH PROFICIENT" only necessary for international flights. As long as you have a plastic card without it, arn't you still ok as long as you stay in the US, or do you have to get a new one anyway?

Harold

[Bill Hart]

Yes, Thank you, Bill! I mis-typed. Certificates other than pilot certificates have longer to comply.

(Why do they get so upset? Does anyone think that my new King Air 300 type rating means I only learned to fly or obtained my ATP in 2009?)

George, I think it has to do with proof of experience. You can point to a type rating and prove that you have experience on flying a particular airframe. As an A&P there is no type cret to prove that I have experience on any particular airframe so in absence of that the date of issuance has become for better or worse proof of experiance. I am fortunate that the company I work for sends me to refresher training annually on the airframes we operate and I have certificates from company's like Flight Safety and Simuflight that I can point to. I kinda would like to see a maintenance type rating of sorts my self.

[GAHorn]

There was a move under-foot a few years ago to require A&P's some sort of "proof of currency". It's already req'd of IA's in the form of renewals but the A&P cert. has no such requirement. (Wanna get ahead of politicians and lawyers on the "most-hated" list? ? ? Make a suggestion to FAA to require A&P recurrent training and Annual Inspection Decals and Proof-of-Insurance Stickers on aircraft fuselages.)

[hungstart]

Since ya'll started it mine number is 1859, ha ha, oops forgot the last three numbers 1859182

It's strange, I just got my plastic cards and my pilots license had my SSN on it and now it has my A&P number, so all my certificates have the same number on them. I have a friend that got his plastic cards and his pilot and A&P license were one digit apart, strange.

Rick

[blueldr]

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[johneeb]

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I am not worthy, I am not worthy(1618622)!!!!
Dick, That pretty much says it all.

[blueldr]

During WWII, when we graduated from flying school, we were offered the opportunity to take an exam on the "CARs".Passing the exam provided us with a CAA Commrcial Pilot Certficate. The only ride I've ever had with the FUZZ was an ATP ride in a DC-6, and I almost blew that one.
Ed Herring. our chief pilot was flying co-pilot for me and I guess the FUZZ asked him to surrepitiously sneak the flaps up to fifteen degrees from the twenty degree setting for take off. As a result, the warning horn blasted when I hit full throttle. (The warning horn sounded on take off if the flaps were not at twenty degrees, if the prop governors were not at full high RPM,or if the instrument inverter was not at the required voltage.) The first thing I saw was the flap gage and I yelled at Ed to "set the goddam flaps right". Old "Nervous Nellie" Ed jumped like had been shot in the butt.and reset the flaps.
I continued the take off and finished the flight OK. When we got back on the ground, the FUZZ rider told he had Ed reset the flaps so that the horn would blow and expected me to reject the take off. But, he passed me anyway.

[mit]

During WWII, when we graduated from flying school, we were offered the opportunity to take an exam on the "CARs".Passing the exam provided us with a CAA Commrcial Pilot Certficate. The only ride I've ever had with the FUZZ was an ATP ride in a DC-6, and I almost blew that one.
Ed Herring. our chief pilot was flying co-pilot for me and I guess the FUZZ asked him to surrepitiously sneak the flaps up to fifteen degrees from the twenty degree setting for take off. As a result, the warning horn blasted when I hit full throttle. (The warning horn sounded on take off if the flaps were not at twenty degrees, if the prop governors were not at full high RPM,or if the instrument inverter was not at the required voltage.) The first thing I saw was the flap gage and I yelled at Ed to "set the goddam flaps right". Old "Nervous Nellie" Ed jumped like had been shot in the butt.and reset the flaps.
I continued the take off and finished the flight OK. When we got back on the ground, the FUZZ rider told he had Ed reset the flaps so that the horn would blow and expected me to reject the take off. But, he passed me anyway.

We ain't in Kansas anymore!

[hungstart]

This seems to prove that there are a lot of us "old farts" around flying "old airplanes".