OT lathe question
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- Bill Hart
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OT lathe question
Hi All,
I have an off topic question that I thought with our diverse group here someone might be able to help me with.
I have been task with selling some of our old equipment that we no longer have a need for and one of the items is a lathe. I cannot find any model number just a manufactures name Rockwell. We do have other Rockwell tools that I can easily identify and find comparable items to judge price by but have no idea what a lathe might be worth or what to compare it.
I was hoping one of you might have some ideas.
What I know about it is the bed is about 48" and is belt driven by a 3 phase motor
Thanks in advance,
I have an off topic question that I thought with our diverse group here someone might be able to help me with.
I have been task with selling some of our old equipment that we no longer have a need for and one of the items is a lathe. I cannot find any model number just a manufactures name Rockwell. We do have other Rockwell tools that I can easily identify and find comparable items to judge price by but have no idea what a lathe might be worth or what to compare it.
I was hoping one of you might have some ideas.
What I know about it is the bed is about 48" and is belt driven by a 3 phase motor
Thanks in advance,
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- blueldr
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Re: OT lathe question
The three phase motor may limit the usefulness for individuals. Where I live in California, they will not provide three phase power to a residence. Of course, one can always install an adaptor.
BL
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Re: OT lathe question
That is a nice little lathe. here in Canada I would expect to pay about $2000-2500, but would expect at least a 3 jaw and 4 jaw chuck and some tooling with it.
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It is a Rockwell Delta 11" model. Looks very nice and would be desirable for the home machinist. Here is a web page that tells a little about it.
Here is what it has going for it from what I see in the picture or your description. It looks VERY clean. it has a table. It's 11" swing. It is a Rockwell not a Atlas or Craftsmen (made by Atlas/Clausing)
Here is what it has going against it. It's three phase. It's 48 inch bed is a bit long for some. It is a Rockwell not a Atlas or Craftsmen (made by Atlas/Clausing)
I was in the market for just such a lathe last year so I've looked at many lathes of this size. By far the Atlas or Craftsmen (made by Atlas/Clausing) lathes in the 6" 10" and 12" swing own the home market. They are well known, there are enough parts new or used to maintain them and the expertise to help. Once you get away from the Atlas or Craftsmen you would want to find a South Bend 9" lathe though these tend to be a bit heavier lathe. Then there are the other lathes like this Rockwell. It is not that it is a bad lathe, in fact it may be the best lathe in it's class. The ready knowledge base for it is just not the same as the Atlas or South Bend.
If all you have is in the picture I'd say it's worth $1800. Only because your market is limited by a home shop budget and there are to many Atlas, Craftsman and South Bend lathes available for less. While the lathe I bought does not look as nice as this and a bit smaller, it is a 10" Atlas, I can do everything I want with it and could not do more with the Rockwell. I paid $500 for mine.
Another chuck is worth about $50-75 (new chucks start about $150) small tooling like cutting bits just sweeten the deal not raise the price. If you have other accessories like a mill attachment or grinder attachment, those can bring as much as $300 a piece.
If you have to much tooling stuff you might consider selling it separately so you don't price yourself out of the market.
What else are you selling?
Here is what it has going for it from what I see in the picture or your description. It looks VERY clean. it has a table. It's 11" swing. It is a Rockwell not a Atlas or Craftsmen (made by Atlas/Clausing)
Here is what it has going against it. It's three phase. It's 48 inch bed is a bit long for some. It is a Rockwell not a Atlas or Craftsmen (made by Atlas/Clausing)
I was in the market for just such a lathe last year so I've looked at many lathes of this size. By far the Atlas or Craftsmen (made by Atlas/Clausing) lathes in the 6" 10" and 12" swing own the home market. They are well known, there are enough parts new or used to maintain them and the expertise to help. Once you get away from the Atlas or Craftsmen you would want to find a South Bend 9" lathe though these tend to be a bit heavier lathe. Then there are the other lathes like this Rockwell. It is not that it is a bad lathe, in fact it may be the best lathe in it's class. The ready knowledge base for it is just not the same as the Atlas or South Bend.
If all you have is in the picture I'd say it's worth $1800. Only because your market is limited by a home shop budget and there are to many Atlas, Craftsman and South Bend lathes available for less. While the lathe I bought does not look as nice as this and a bit smaller, it is a 10" Atlas, I can do everything I want with it and could not do more with the Rockwell. I paid $500 for mine.
Another chuck is worth about $50-75 (new chucks start about $150) small tooling like cutting bits just sweeten the deal not raise the price. If you have other accessories like a mill attachment or grinder attachment, those can bring as much as $300 a piece.
If you have to much tooling stuff you might consider selling it separately so you don't price yourself out of the market.
What else are you selling?
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Re: OT lathe question
Wow, I am continually amazed at the breadth of knowledge on this forum. I do have the tooling to go with the lathe and I have a buyer for it I just wanted to make sure the deal we strike is a good deal for the both parties and it sounds like from what you all have said I think I can do that now. Thanks!
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Bruce,
We have 3 Baldor grinders, a media blast cabinet, a couple of drill presses, 2 50 ton presses, a roller, Jacks for a GV, king air jacks several tow bars, a couple of band saws vertical and horizontal, and a whole bunch of odds and ends.
We have 3 Baldor grinders, a media blast cabinet, a couple of drill presses, 2 50 ton presses, a roller, Jacks for a GV, king air jacks several tow bars, a couple of band saws vertical and horizontal, and a whole bunch of odds and ends.
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Darn it Bill
Why does all the good stuff come up for sale so far away....good luck with you sale! The Mrs is smiling because she knows Id probably buy just to say I have it
W.
Why does all the good stuff come up for sale so far away....good luck with you sale! The Mrs is smiling because she knows Id probably buy just to say I have it



W.

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Re: OT lathe question
W, I know what your talking about. I've been looking for a grinder, a horizontal band saw, a media blast cabinet, probably a roller and a whole lot of odds and ends. I just bought a drill press.
Might be good Georgia is so far away.
Might be good Georgia is so far away.

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Re: OT lathe question
Bruce- That would make an easy load for a U-Haul truck. You could be back to work by Tuesday!
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Re: OT lathe question
You can buy a phase converter that just looks like a motor to use on regular 220. Looks like a great lathe.
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Re: OT lathe question
You can buy a new or used trailer locally, then you'd have the trailer for that Harley... or you could sell the trailer when you get home.
Bill...I hope the soda-pop business isn't shutting down the mx dept.
Bill...I hope the soda-pop business isn't shutting down the mx dept.

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Re: OT lathe question
No George, the business is good we just are not doing the same level of maintenance as we used to and need to free up some floor space.gahorn wrote:
Bill...I hope the soda-pop business isn't shutting down the mx dept.
Thanks for everyone comments, I was able to get everything sold this week .
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