A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
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A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
A few minutes ago, I saw the skies overhead my place and thought I'd share the view:
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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
Must be President Obama on his way out to Oakland to screw up our General Aviation airspace for twenty-four hours.
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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
So George are you just showing us any contrails or is Robert correct that you think these are presidential?
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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
Well...here's an interesting TFR notam which might indicate something is going on. (Seems to include the time-frame of when the pics were taken):
30 nm radius TFR
Location:
OAK VOR's 270-degree radial at 8.2 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL
Times:
4:50 p.m. local Thursday, October 15 until 10:05 a.m. local Friday, October 16
Click here for requirements for flight and operations not authorized.
10 nm radius no-fly zone
Location:
SFO VOR's 060-degree radial at 0.7 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL
Times:
4:50 p.m. until 5:55 p.m. local Thursday, October 15
9:00 a.m. until 10:05 a.m. local Friday, October 16
10 nm radius no-fly zone
Location:
OAK VOR's 270-degree radial at 8.2 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL
Times:
5:20 p.m. local Thursday, October 15 until 9:40 a.m. local Friday, October 16
IMPACTED AIRPORTS:
Metropolitan Oakland International OAK
San Francisco International SFO
Hayward Executive HWD
Half Moon Bay HAF
San Carlos SQL
Buchanan Field CCR
Palo Alto Arpt Of Santa Clara County PAO
Gnoss Field DVO
Napa County APC
Livermore Municipal LVK
Sonoma Valley 0Q3
Sonoma Skypark 0Q9
30 nm radius TFR
Location:
OAK VOR's 270-degree radial at 8.2 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL
Times:
4:50 p.m. local Thursday, October 15 until 10:05 a.m. local Friday, October 16
Click here for requirements for flight and operations not authorized.
10 nm radius no-fly zone
Location:
SFO VOR's 060-degree radial at 0.7 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL
Times:
4:50 p.m. until 5:55 p.m. local Thursday, October 15
9:00 a.m. until 10:05 a.m. local Friday, October 16
10 nm radius no-fly zone
Location:
OAK VOR's 270-degree radial at 8.2 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL
Times:
5:20 p.m. local Thursday, October 15 until 9:40 a.m. local Friday, October 16
IMPACTED AIRPORTS:
Metropolitan Oakland International OAK
San Francisco International SFO
Hayward Executive HWD
Half Moon Bay HAF
San Carlos SQL
Buchanan Field CCR
Palo Alto Arpt Of Santa Clara County PAO
Gnoss Field DVO
Napa County APC
Livermore Municipal LVK
Sonoma Valley 0Q3
Sonoma Skypark 0Q9
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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
Some folks just really can't stand to let a "jab" at the president pass by without comment. How do you know it's not really Nancy heading home for the weekend?Robert Eilers wrote:Must be President Obama on his way out to Oakland to screw up our General Aviation airspace for twenty-four hours.




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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
We know it is not Nancy coming home for the weekend because they have only shut down a portion of the Bay Area to general aviation. If it were Nancy coming home the whole damn Bay Area would be shut down - except of course for illegal aliens and those willing to pay a toll to enter.
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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
Who is this Nancy?
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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
If Pelozi flies home in a five-ship formation, I'm really pissed.
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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
Here's a link to Nancy demanding a larger jet than her current Gulfstream.
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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
Here's another couple of jabs:gahorn wrote:Some folks just really can't stand to let a "jab" at the president pass by without comment. How do you know it's not really Nancy heading home for the weekend?Robert Eilers wrote:Must be President Obama on his way out to Oakland to screw up our General Aviation airspace for twenty-four hours.
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It's about time somebody else gets to enjoy the 30nm TFRs, Texas had them for 8 years!
Not only is Nancy costing millions $$ of tax money a year, she's doing her part to help increase the price of oil.
Richard Pulley
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
Oh I forgot about THAT Nancy. 

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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
As far as I am concerned Nancy and a lot of the other Washingtonites can fly commercial, coach and if determined necessary they can put an air marshall on either side of her/them 

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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!
Since I started this,... (and since many folks who are easily enraged over such matters rarely actually inform themselves properly once a rumor is convenient to their viewpoint)... I feel obligated to point out that the "link to Nancy demanding a larger jet than her current Gulfstream." .... is misleading. It is a link to a Snopes (urban legends) post which actually states most of the rumor is FALSE.
In actuality, it was the GW BUSH administration which ordered the speaker (Nancy Pelosi) to utilize the aircraft for her returns to CA, and it was the House Sargent at Arms (Bill Livinggood...is that an incredible PUN? ) ...who issued the request for a plane capable of non-stop flight,.... and the Bush White House confirmed that was an appropriate action.
Ms. Pelosi has been recorded as stating that she did not care which aircraft was used. The choice of aircraft is entirely up to the military. According to the Air Force, the larger C-32 was actually used only ONCE...when no other aircraft was available. The Speaker normally travels on an Air Force C-20 (Gulfstream.)
I personally always thought it a good idea for them to travel on the airlines like the rest of us, including having the opportunity to remove their shoes and throw away their toothpaste. They might keep a better perspective on how things really work out here.
In actuality, it was the GW BUSH administration which ordered the speaker (Nancy Pelosi) to utilize the aircraft for her returns to CA, and it was the House Sargent at Arms (Bill Livinggood...is that an incredible PUN? ) ...who issued the request for a plane capable of non-stop flight,.... and the Bush White House confirmed that was an appropriate action.
Ms. Pelosi has been recorded as stating that she did not care which aircraft was used. The choice of aircraft is entirely up to the military. According to the Air Force, the larger C-32 was actually used only ONCE...when no other aircraft was available. The Speaker normally travels on an Air Force C-20 (Gulfstream.)
I personally always thought it a good idea for them to travel on the airlines like the rest of us, including having the opportunity to remove their shoes and throw away their toothpaste. They might keep a better perspective on how things really work out here.
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50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.

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