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A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:26 am
by GAHorn
A few minutes ago, I saw the skies overhead my place and thought I'd share the view:
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Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:34 am
by Robert Eilers
Must be President Obama on his way out to Oakland to screw up our General Aviation airspace for twenty-four hours.

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:09 pm
by Bruce Fenstermacher
So George are you just showing us any contrails or is Robert correct that you think these are presidential?

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:16 pm
by GAHorn
Well...here's an interesting TFR notam which might indicate something is going on. (Seems to include the time-frame of when the pics were taken):

30 nm radius TFR
Location:
OAK VOR's 270-degree radial at 8.2 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL

Times:
4:50 p.m. local Thursday, October 15 until 10:05 a.m. local Friday, October 16

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10 nm radius no-fly zone
Location:
SFO VOR's 060-degree radial at 0.7 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL

Times:
4:50 p.m. until 5:55 p.m. local Thursday, October 15
9:00 a.m. until 10:05 a.m. local Friday, October 16

10 nm radius no-fly zone
Location:
OAK VOR's 270-degree radial at 8.2 nautical miles
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL

Times:
5:20 p.m. local Thursday, October 15 until 9:40 a.m. local Friday, October 16

IMPACTED AIRPORTS:

Metropolitan Oakland International OAK
San Francisco International SFO
Hayward Executive HWD
Half Moon Bay HAF
San Carlos SQL
Buchanan Field CCR
Palo Alto Arpt Of Santa Clara County PAO
Gnoss Field DVO
Napa County APC
Livermore Municipal LVK
Sonoma Valley 0Q3
Sonoma Skypark 0Q9

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:18 pm
by GAHorn
Robert Eilers wrote:Must be President Obama on his way out to Oakland to screw up our General Aviation airspace for twenty-four hours.
Some folks just really can't stand to let a "jab" at the president pass by without comment. How do you know it's not really Nancy heading home for the weekend? :twisted:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:19 pm
by Robert Eilers
We know it is not Nancy coming home for the weekend because they have only shut down a portion of the Bay Area to general aviation. If it were Nancy coming home the whole damn Bay Area would be shut down - except of course for illegal aliens and those willing to pay a toll to enter.

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:26 pm
by Bruce Fenstermacher
Who is this Nancy?

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:52 am
by hilltop170
If Pelozi flies home in a five-ship formation, I'm really pissed.

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:34 am
by n2582d
Here's a link to Nancy demanding a larger jet than her current Gulfstream.

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:15 am
by hilltop170
gahorn wrote:
Robert Eilers wrote:Must be President Obama on his way out to Oakland to screw up our General Aviation airspace for twenty-four hours.
Some folks just really can't stand to let a "jab" at the president pass by without comment. How do you know it's not really Nancy heading home for the weekend? :twisted:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Here's another couple of jabs:

It's about time somebody else gets to enjoy the 30nm TFRs, Texas had them for 8 years!

Not only is Nancy costing millions $$ of tax money a year, she's doing her part to help increase the price of oil.

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:04 am
by Bruce Fenstermacher
Oh I forgot about THAT Nancy. :roll:

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:08 pm
by 170C
As far as I am concerned Nancy and a lot of the other Washingtonites can fly commercial, coach and if determined necessary they can put an air marshall on either side of her/them :x

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:30 pm
by N2255D

Re: A few minutes ago....Or.... Look out California!

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:40 pm
by GAHorn
Since I started this,... (and since many folks who are easily enraged over such matters rarely actually inform themselves properly once a rumor is convenient to their viewpoint)... I feel obligated to point out that the "link to Nancy demanding a larger jet than her current Gulfstream." .... is misleading. It is a link to a Snopes (urban legends) post which actually states most of the rumor is FALSE.

In actuality, it was the GW BUSH administration which ordered the speaker (Nancy Pelosi) to utilize the aircraft for her returns to CA, and it was the House Sargent at Arms (Bill Livinggood...is that an incredible PUN? ) ...who issued the request for a plane capable of non-stop flight,.... and the Bush White House confirmed that was an appropriate action.

Ms. Pelosi has been recorded as stating that she did not care which aircraft was used. The choice of aircraft is entirely up to the military. According to the Air Force, the larger C-32 was actually used only ONCE...when no other aircraft was available. The Speaker normally travels on an Air Force C-20 (Gulfstream.)

I personally always thought it a good idea for them to travel on the airlines like the rest of us, including having the opportunity to remove their shoes and throw away their toothpaste. They might keep a better perspective on how things really work out here.