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Jimmy M.
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Gear Leg Question

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I've tried the search engine but no luck.
What kind of steel is used in early gear legs. ( what alloy ? )
What hardness ????
George......you must know this stuff............ :wink:
Thanks........................Jim
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Re: Gear Leg Question

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The main gear legs are made of SAE-6150 chrome-vanadium spring-steel with a vanadium content of approx. .18-percent and chrome content of approx 1-percent.. They are treated and hardened on their leading edges and lower surfaces by a shot-peening process which I posted previously at: http://cessna170.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4973
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Thanks George,
I don't know how you remember this stuff...........I can barely remember my way
home some days ( especially when the flying's good )
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Please don't say anything to Jamie. She can't figure out why I can't remember to carry out the garbage. :lol:
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gahorn wrote:Please don't say anything to Jamie. She can't figure out why I can't remember to carry out the garbage. :lol:
And of course you always remember your anniversary, don't you.....Brad
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Brad Brady wrote:
gahorn wrote:Please don't say anything to Jamie. She can't figure out why I can't remember to carry out the garbage. :lol:
And of course you always remember your anniversary, don't you.....Brad
Yeah, that's a no-brainer. The executive sec'y always sends me a reminder of when my renewal is due. :lol:
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Re: Gear Leg Question

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George do you know what the hardness number would be ???( rockwell or brinnell )

Oh.....and I remembered the garbage today......did you ?? :lol:
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Re: Gear Leg Question

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I don't know Cessna's specification but a common spring-industry spec for chrome-vanadium springs is C41-55 (rockwell).
Hope this helps.
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gahorn wrote:The main gear legs are made of SAE-6150 chrome-vanadium spring-steel with a vanadium content of approx. .18-percent and chrome content of approx 1-percent.. They are treated and hardened on their leading edges and lower surfaces by a shot-peening process which I posted previously at: http://cessna170.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4973
I can't remember where I read this but I believe the early gear was 4000 or 4100 steel (moly or chromoly) which was changed to 6150 for the later (lady legs) gear.
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Re: Gear Leg Question

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I picked up a set of legs from a '52B that got close to a fire so I want to get them
re-tempered and checked for cracks.............I can do this locally that's why I'm
asking about alloy and hardness..................
Once again, I appreciate your input........thanks
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Re: Gear Leg Question

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Jimmy-
This might help, here are the fabrication specs for the older symmetrical main landing gear last revised in 1950.

These specs do not apply to the later "lady legs". I have never been able to find the specs for them. Anybody have the later model gear specs? If so, please share.

This website only allows five attachments. Page six is in the next post. Not the best quality but still readable.

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Cessna Landing Gear Specs,old.1_1_1.jpg
Cessna Landing Gear Specs,old.2_1_1.jpg
Cessna Landing Gear Specs,old.3_1_1.jpg
Cessna Landing Gear Specs,old.4_1_1.jpg
Cessna Landing Gear Specs,old.5_1_1.jpg
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Page 6.

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Cessna Landing Gear Specs,old.6_1_1.jpg
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thanks once again guys........................proving once more the
value of belonging to this association !!
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Richard, if you can scan that into a PDF file and upload it, it would allow a complete set to be downloadable AND it would improve the clarity of the document.

Also, right -clicking and selecting "print" only produces a blank document, while enlarging and printing only produces a quarter-page document, while using Microsoft Image printing makes such a poor copy it's unreadable. (at least on my setup)
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Re: Gear Leg Question

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The best would be if Richard has this document and can scan it better into a PDF. In the mean time I've uploaded the exapnded images and created a PDF that all should be able to download and print.
Cessna Landing Gear Specification 204-1.pdf
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